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>> We have it just
in a tank of water.

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It's facing upward.

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This is a real human kidney
stone in this camera right here.

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And the idea being in the setup,

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first we can use our Doppler
ultrasound to locate the stone.

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>> So you can see it?

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>> Yeah, so it shows up
as twinkling pattern.

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And once you have
actually located the stone,

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we target on the stone
or just behind the stone.

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And then, you know, press a foot
pedal or press the button and --

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>> Oh, you can see it moving.

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>> That stone will
actually go up.

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>> Because you're actually
moving the kidney stone inside

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somebody's body without actually
having to do surgery on them.

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>> Exactly.

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Completely noninvasive.

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>> That's amazing.

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So obviously you know we were
talking about, if an astronaut

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or cosmoanaut had
this up in orbit,

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you can really start
a surgery up here.

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So you guys could use this --

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>> Right. Exactly.

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You could basically
target the stone.

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Identify the path for it to
move out of where it's stuck

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into the ureters and
just push it right along

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until it exits right
outside the kidney.

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>> And NASA's very
interested in it

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because it's going
to survive in space.

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It's a software based device.

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So you can send upgrades
up to space

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without flying new hardware.

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>> You don't have
to swap it out.

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Right.

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>> And then we have
these new capabilities.

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It's not just a standard
[inaudible].

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It's able to move stones.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Or other researchers
in this group are looking

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at treating bone
loss with ultrasound.

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So we could feed those in
maybe with a new probe,

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maybe with a software upgrade
but you don't have to change

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that hardware that is
radiation [inaudible].

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>> Yeah, I think, you know, you
hit upon a point I think a lot

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of people don't [inaudible].

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You can't just fly a
normal piece of equipment

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up to the space station.

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That radiation is an
issue up there especially

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if you start talking
about going to Mars.

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So the equipment's got to be
built for that specific purpose

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to [inaudible] that environment.

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>> The ultrasound
that they've cloned

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on station is in
[inaudible] orbit.

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It doesn't see the same
radiation load that it would --

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that a machine would
see once we leave

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on a long duration mission.

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>> You talk about just normal
things that happen to us here

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on Earth, that, you know,
you get 6, seven months

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out into space that
can be a big deal.

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You know something that's kind

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of a routine something you
could just go to the doctor for,

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you know you don't
have a doctor up there.

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You know.

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>> Exactly right.

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I think there is also an
earthbound application here

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that most people that come
in have small stones --

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>> Yeah.

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>> And the doctors say drink
a ton of water and try to get

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to those to pass naturally.

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And they don't always.

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And then they have to a surgery
that's got some complications.

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So we would help those
small stones pass.

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>> Come right in.

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Maybe even same the patient
x-ray, CT to find the stone

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because the urologist
could go ahead his

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or her office can see it --

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>> Can see it.

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>> And they're not
so great at seeing it

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on an ultrasound maybe right
now but if you could say,

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I think that's a stone.

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Let's nudge it.

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Oh yeah it's a stone
it's moving.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And then not only
see it but encourage

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that to leave right
there and then.

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In fact they might be
in the doctor's office.

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There could be some discomfort
in passing stones but you know

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when it's going to happen.

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So then the doctor could
already prepare the patient.

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Give them some analgesics.

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Give a dilator that helps the
stone pass through the ureter

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and it's all timed within
a very narrow window

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where they're in
supervised care.

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As opposed to this
could be weeks

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when they tell them
to go home and drink.

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And at some point it's going
to start to pass or it won't.